The music hall called Pepperland is somewhat of a legend in Marin County lore. Although it was open, on and off, for less than three years, and fully operational for less than a year, it played host to a pretty amazing and diverse roster of international talent, including Pink Floyd, Captain Beefheart, Chuck Berry, and many others. I got up to Pepperland two times, once to see what was billed as the Acoustic Grateful Dead and another time to see a dynamite quadruple bill of Grootna, Lamb, Boz Scaggs, and Taj Mahal’s tuba band. Pepperland has been discussed recently on a couple of the Bay Area related music blogs, so I thought I would deviate again from a chronological diary of shows to talk about this funky little venue.
Bermuda Palms 1950s? Image courtesy of Rebecca David. (Check out her great book, Mid-Century By the Bay calmodbooks.com) |
The Aliens performing at Bermuda Palms, early 1960s. This is clearly the same stage setup used when the hall became Pepperland. |
Poster from the Janis/Big Brother/Gold Hell's Angel's Party 5/21/70 |
By late June of 1970, the dance hall at Litchfield’s was renamed Euphoria, and had a brief, but storied, stint that included gigs by Big Brother as well as two nights featuring the Grateful Dead, the New Riders, and Rubber Duck. David Crosby participated in the Dead’s acoustic set the first night and, at the second, Janjs Joplin appeared again to trade boozy sexual innuendos with Pigpen on “Lovelight.”
At the end of July, the club closed its doors while it underwent an extensive facelift, emerging in mid September as Pepperland, a Beatles-themed hall that featured a quadraphonic sound system that was one of the earliest projects for sound engineer John Meyer, who later founded Meyer Sound, the East Bay company that started out building custom PA systems for the Dead and others, and has developed into one of the world’s premier sound reinforcement developers and manufacturers.
To complement the psychedelic décor, the support girders for the hall’s roof were adorned with painted portholes that mimicked the designs present in the fanciful craft piloted by the Beatles in their 1968 cartoon movie Yellow Submarine. Even the sound system blended into the décor, with the speakers molded into huge conical fiberglass structures as shown above.What appears to have been Pepperland’s grand opening featured an eclectic triple bill of Hot Tuna, Captain Beefheart’s Magic Band, and jazz flute maestro Charles Lloyd. From then well into 1971, the club offered really interesting triple bills of acts that would normally be Bill Graham’s stock in trade in the city. Notable among these was a legendary Pink Floyd gig in which the band needed to use the ballroom floor to accommodate all of their gear, and one of the shows was plagued by power failures as Floyd’s massive sound system taxed the club’s electrical capacity. The relatively Pepperland portion of the gig list below was culled largely from the web site of Universalightforms, a site run by Bob Pulum, founder of legendary light show crew the Brotherhood of Light, who became the house visual artists at the club beginning with the club’s second gig with Frank Zappa and the Mothers. According to Pulum’s site, Pepperland’s first incarnation lasted from that initial show until an April 11, 1971 bill with Quicksilver, Hot Tuna, and Lizard, after which the promoters allegedly split with the proceeds of that show. Pepperland reopened in September with some of the original employees, including the BOL, in place, but the new venue seems to have only stayed open a few months, closing for good in January, 1972. A nice selection of poster images from Pepperland and Euphoria can be found in this page at the great Chicken on a Unicycle web site.
The Litchfield’s motel appears to have been open during this entire time and developed somewhat of a shady reputation in the 1970s. This reputation is supported indirectly by the Grateful Dead tune "Shakedown Street," which was written in 1978 about the neighborhood surrounding the band’s Front Street studios, which were directly across the street from the rear of the Litchfield’s complex.
Today the site houses a somewhat gentrified Motel 6. In front of the motel is a large building that recently housed the Zebra sofa store, and which was clearly the original Euphoria/Pepperland building. In 2008, the historic Litchfield’s sign was restored on the building through the efforts of Perry Litchfield, Marin County lawyer and Whitey’s son.
Jerry Garcia and David Crosby Pepperland 12/21/70 Photo: M. Parrish |
George Marsh and Jerry Hahn Pepperland 12/21/70 Photo : M. Parrish |
Mystery Musicians Pepperland 12/21/70 Photo: M. Parrish |
Spencer Dryden and David Nelson of NRPS Pepperland 12/21/70 Photo: M. Parrish |
Jerry Garcia's nose and David Crosby Note: Garcia playing an SG and Crosby a Gretsch 6 String Pepperland 12/21/70 Photo: M. Parrish |
There seemed to be nothing like a curfew at Pepperland, and the musicians were clearly in no hurry to get anywhere.
Crosby, Kreutzmann, Lesh Pepperland 12/21/70 Photo M. Parrish |
The issue of the drummer for this ensemble has been a source of some confusion. When the tapes of the Matrix show first circulated in the mid-1970s, the tape notations listed Mickey Hart as the drummer. During the Dead's acoustic sets in 1970, who provided percussion seemed to be almost random. Either Kreutzmann or Hart would generally be the principal drummer (except on the many occasions when only Garcia, Weir, and Lesh performed without percussion), so seeing a sole drummer onstage was no big deal. When I was recently able to scan the negatives from this show, it became clear that the drummer this evening was Kreutzmann, not Hart, so it seems equally likely that this was the case at the Matrix show/rehearsal earlier in the week. As discussed over at JGMF, I do not recall seeing Hart in the hall (and only one drum kit was onstage), so he most likely did not perform that evening at all.
Taj Mahal Tuba Band at Pepperland 4/2-4/71 Photo: Dr. Che |
Next up was Lamb, which had originated as an acoustic duo consisting of guitarist-vocalist Barbara Mauritz and guitarist-keyboard player Bob Swanson. By the time of this show, they had expanded to an electric quartet, which included bassist David Hayes and a percussionist. The group's eclectic material was jazz influenced, and driven by Mauritz' powerful, hypnotic vocals. Their second album, Cross Between, featured Jerry Garcia on three cuts.
During 1970 and 1971, one of the Bay Area's best bands was the octet led by by Boz Scaggs. After departing the Steve Miller Band at the end of 1968, Scaggs took a year or so off from performing, but cut a legendary, eponymous album in Muscle Shoals with a lot of help from Duane Allman. When that album garnered a lot of airplay. Scaggs went ahead and assembled a band to, as much as possible, capture the tight big band sound he had captured on the album. The new group featured drummer George Rains (late of Mother Earth and the Sir Douglas Quintet), bassist David Brown, jazz keyboard player Jymm Joachim Young, guitarist Doug Simril, and a horn section comprising sax player Mel Martin, trombonist Patrick O'Hara, and trumpeter Bill Atwood (replaced at some point by Tom Poole). The group's diverse sets were drawn mostly from the Atlantic Scaggs album and the band's first Columbia album, Moments, both of which featured a blend of rockers and soulful ballads that were very different than the disco material that brought Scaggs his greatest commercial success in the late 1970s and 1980s. A high point of their sets as the time was a long, spacy version of "Baby's Calling Me Home" which Scaggs had contributed to the first Steve Miller Band album, Children of the Future.
Taj Mahal was ubiquitous in the Bay Area during the era, but this was the first time, to my knowledge, that he performed locally with the remarkable band he assembled for a couple of tours that was documented in The Real Thing. Taj was always staking out new musical territory, but the so called "Tuba band" was perhaps his most audacious (and probably expensive) experiment. Comprising first call musicians like guitarist John Hall (later leader of Orleans), one-time Hendrix bassist Billy Rich, pianist John Simon, drummer Greg Thomas, and conga player Kwasi "Rocky" DziDzournou, the group's most startiing element was the quartet of tuba players led by Howard Johnson and also featuring Bob Stewart, Joseph Daley, and Earl McIntyre.
Few vocalist-guitarists have enough presence not to be upstaged by a quartet of tubas, but the combination worked remarkably well. Taj used the tubas mostly to provide a tremendous bottom to tunes like "Sweet Mama Janisse" and the extended "You Ain't No Street Walker Mama, But Honey I Love the Way You Strut Your Stuff." After doing a couple of songs solo, Taj brought the rest of the musicians out for a slow, breezy version of "Ain't Gwine To Whistle Dixie (Anymo') highlighted by both exclamations from the tuba section and Hall's jazzy guitar. It was a great set and, given that it was a Saturday night, we stayed until the end.
The Interior of the Pepperland Building Circa 2/2011 The stage was located back by the flat Screen TV and the exercise balls. Photo: M. Parrish |
The Bermuda Palms/Euphoria/Pepperland Building Circa 2/2011 Photo M. Parrish |
The former site of Le Club Front as of 2/2011 Photo: M. Parrish |
Gig Lists
Bermuda Palms
7/28/67 Sons of Champlin, Baltimore Steam Packet, Thursday’s Island, Mieville Square, The IV Kings.
5/21/70 Hell’s Angels Party with Janis Joplin and Full Tilt Boogie (billed as Main Squeeze, but they had broken up by then), Big Brother and the Holding Company, and Gold.
Euphoria
7/3,4,5/70 Big Brother and the Holding Company, A.B. Skhy, Joy of Cooking
7/14, 16/70 Grateful Dead, NRPS, Rubber Duck
7/20/70 Country Joe and the Fish, Southern Comfort
7/24,25,26 Chambers Brothers, Boz Scaggs, Southern Comfort
Pepperland
9/18,19/70 - Pepperland Ballroom Hot Tuna, Capt. Beefheart, Charles Lloyd
9/25,26/70 - Pepperland NBL Productions - Frank Zappa & Mothers, Tim Buckley, Kindred
10/16,17/70 - Pink Floyd, Kimberly, Osceola
10/24,25/70 - Steve Miller, Jerry Hahn, Dan Hicks & Hot Licks
11/13,14/70 - Incredible String Band, Doug Kershaw, Joy Of Cooking
11/28/70 - Leon Russell, Capt. Beefheart, Clover, Truk
12/18,19/70 - Chuck Berry, Sir Douglas (or Edward’s Hand?) , Boz Scaggs
12/20/70 - Joan Baez
12/21/70 – Grateful Dead?, Crosby/Garcia/Lesh/Kreutzmann, John Kahn and Terry Haggerty, NRPS, Jerry Hahn Brotherhood
1/22,23/71 - Youngbloods, Sea Train, John Fahey
1/29,30/71 - Cold Blood, Boz Scaggs, Stoneground
2/5,6/71 - Elvin Bishop, PG&E, Tower Of Power
2/20,21/71- Big Brother, The Sons, Clover
2/26,27/71- Spencer Davis, Dan Hicks&Hot Licks, Country Weather
3/5,6/71- Steve Miller, John Lee Hooker, Bronze Hog
3/12,13/71- Lee Michaels, Joy Of Cooking, Fourth Way
3/11/71 - Linda Ronstadt, Clover, Little John, Chris Darrow
3/19,20/71 – It’s A Beautiful Day, Odetta, Victoria
4/2-4/71 - Taj Mahal, Boz Scaggs, Lamb, Grootna
4/11/71 - Quicksilver, Hot Tuna, Lizard
Last NBL show
9/9-11/71 - Steve Miller, Yogi Phlegm, Nazgul, Clover
9/24,25/71 - Mike Bloomfield, Stoneground, Clover
11/13/71- Tower Of Power, Cold Blood, Norman Greenbaum
12/4/71 - Boz Scaggs, Earthquake, Staton Bros.
12/11/71- Joy Of Cooking, Commander Cody, Crossfire
84 comments:
Interesting post. I attended the first Pepperland show w/ Beefheart. That was the weekend when Hendrix died, and on the night I went, Steve Miller also played out of respect.
Absolutely wonderful. Great post, and I absolutely love the photos. Thank you for sharing!
I envy you for having seen Beefheart at Pepperland. I wish I had gotten up there a few more times! Thanks for the note.
great article! i was there for those july '70 dead shows and especially remember the janis and pig lovelight! after the show, as we were all leaving, janis came out from the next door bar with her own bottle of jack daniels, toasting us all! that was the last time i saw her...
Great research and article/photos. I live in the Northbay and have wondered about this venue since getting a tape of 7-14-70 many years ago. Thanks for posting. -Lance
Loved the article! I caught the Taj Majal tuba band down at Memorial Auditorium on Stanford campus around 1973.
Thanks so much, Michael! You have an amazing memory, and a warm writing style.
I second everyone else's emotion. This is a truly epic post, even by your already high standards.
David, Corry, and others:
Thanks for the kind words. I had always wondered what became of the Pepperland site, so it was fun to go up and find out.
a very nice one michael and i finally get to see those pictures you once mentioned while walking thru the hills on the kaiserstuhl
Uli:
Great to hear from you. I remember that walk well. You certainly live in a beautiful part of the world.
Thank you for the well researched post.
I worked at Pepperland, so was there for all of the shows, as well as during the time the venue was being redone prior to the opening. (Also worked for Whitey Litchfield briefly, after Pepperland closed.)
Although much of the history of that venue is "lost in the haze," you did a pretty accurate job of capturing some of it. One note is that the actual space that Pepperland was in was not the building with the "Litchfields" sign atop it, but the somewhat non-descript building immediately to the northwest. (The rounded corners of the original exterior still exist, though the appearance of the building has changed much since that time.)
The actual concert lineups also often differed from what was advertised, so posters from the era are sometimes only a vague indicator of who played. (The owners of Pepperland did not come from a background of concert promoting... We'll leave it at that.) To my memory, the Grateful Dead never played while the owners who opened Pepperland were there. There was some bad blood between the two organizations.
I was also at the Angels' party when Janis played, prior to the venue being called Pepperland. A very crazy evening, that was.
The venue was also briefly called "The Citadel" sometime before the Pepperland days, but I rarely, if ever, come across references to it by that name.
Another note: The Aliens' performance of the '60s appears to be on the stage of the Bermuda Palms nightclub (within the building under the "Litchfields" sign) and not in the building that was later used for Pepperland. The stage in the photo is lower than the Pepperland stage was, and appears to be the same height as the Bermuda Palms stage.
At the time of Pepperland, the Bermuda Palms nightclub was unused.
An interesting bit of trivia is that the Bermuda Palms nightclub occupied the site where the pool formerly was. (I would imagine that once the freeway came through, sunning poolside was not as glamorous as it once might have been.) The nightclub was built right over the pool, and the pool still existed under the stage, though because the entire area is built on low lying tidal flats, the pool was low enough that it would have floated if left empty, due to the level of the groundwater. To prevent this, a hole had been broken through the bottom of the pool, and a sump pump sat in it, to drain it when the tide rose. There was a small door under the stage that allowed access to the old pool.
Thanks so much for this great information. I'm still struggling with the geography of the old facility. I thought I had matched up the stage area with the wall furthest away from the frontage road in what is now the athletic equipment store, but maybe that was the Bermuda Palms stage area. It's a surprise to learn that the two venues were in different buildings. Looking at the Google Earth photo, I can see what you are talking about with the rounded corners of the Pepperland building. Looks like another trip to Marin is in the cards - fortunately I'm headed up there again soon.
I'm sure memories are hazy, but do you happen to remember anything about that 12/21/70 show. As I mentioned, Crosby and Garcia were cranking away when we left, but I wondered if anything interesting happened later in the way of a jam. You did note that the Dead per se never played there during the Pepperland era. It's too bad, as it would have been a convenient place for them to do low key gigs if the politics had worked out better. It was certainly a great place to hear music while it lasted.
Yes, the building you see on Google Earth was the site of Pepperland. You can see that it is comprised of a couple of additions. That caused the interior space to be broken up. Although the official capacity was 2,000, there were three "rooms" and the sight lines got worse the further one got from the stage. The stage was against the wall that is the farthest from Francisco Blvd., and it was nearly impossible to see the show from the room that was closest to Francisco Blvd.
The main space, where the stage was, was divided in two, with a partial wall between the two areas. Only the top half of the wall was solid, with the lower half being mostly open aside from some posts. This was enough to detract from the view of the stage, though. The light booth was perched above the openings and on the stage side of this wall. (The sound booth was behind double glass, on the right hand wall in the main room, as one faced the stage.)
Pink Floyd did bring their own quadraphonic system: two semi trailers full. As I remember, they were not especially impressed with the house system.
The photos of the stage that include the Glyph speakers can give a sense of scale. The exponential horns on the bass speakers opened out to about 6 or 7 feet, I believe. (The drivers were 15" speakers.) During shows there were often people lying down inside of them. I doubt it enhanced the audio to be in there, but it might have enhanced "other aspects" of their experience at the time.
I wish I could help with more details of the 12/21/70 show. Unfortunately, the "haze" that generally hung in the air back then makes the memory even hazier. I also happened to see a lot of the Dead, New Riders, and various combinations of various members at a lot of different venues around that time, so few shows stand out. ...One that does, and that I don't believe I have ever seen mention of since, is the "Barn Dance" that was held at the Family Dog at Playand. It was a country hoe-down theme, and if I remember correctly, it was all acoustic. There were bales of hay strewn about, "folksy" things like bobbing for apples, and a band composed of Garcia on banjo and David LaFlamme on fiddle, amongst others. (There were also several plastic trash barrels filled with Kool Aid that was pretty heavily laced with psychedelics. Needless to say, things got a little strange in there, as the night wore on.) If you have blogged on that night.. or know of any reference to it, I would love a link, to see how well my memory serves me about the details.
Forgive the digression, though. I agree with you that Pepperland would have been an extremely convenient venue for the Dead, perhaps to show up unannounced and work stuff out before a crowd. At the time, I very much regretted the trouble that prevented them from playing there, and always held out the hope that things would change. Unfortunately the place closed long before that ever had a chance to come about.
I also just took a closer look at the Bermuda Palms postcard you posted. Not only does it clearly show bits of the Pepperland building in the background, but the pool is visible.
Comparing it to the aerial view on Google Earth, one can clearly see the addition on the Litchfield's / Bermuda Palms building that was built over the pool and once housed that nightclub. I would highly doubt that anyone would have gone to the trouble to fill in the pool since the '70s, so it quite likely is still there, under whatever business that now occupies the space.
Though unrelated to the music, that might be an interesting little side detail of the venue to investigate, if you do make another trip to Pepperland.
I also remember that sightlines were a real challenge at Pepperland due to the geometry of the room. I hope I can get into that building (and it would be great to see if I could find the buried pool as well).
Thanks also for the information about the Barn Dance at the Family Dog. A colleague of mine wrote about it recently (http://lostlivedead.blogspot.com/2010/04/family-dog-at-great-highway-august-13.html) but he was unclear about who played that evening. I knew that LaFlamme had played with the NRPS and maybe the Dead on occasions (and Jerry guested on the second IABD album) but this is the first I've heard of the two playing bluegrass together.
Hey Anonymous:
If you're still out there, I wonder if you can clarify whether Euphoria was located in the Bermuda Palms or Pepperland buildings? Thanks again for your great eyewitness comments!
It was at the Pepperland building (737). Ross
Ross:
Our friend the former Pepperland employee has convinced me that Pepperland proper was in the building next door to the Motel 6/Athletic Supply Store that is currently identified as 737 E. Francisco. That building is currently numbered 777, but my supposition is that the entire Litchfield's complex was numbered 737 back then, hence the source of some of the confusion. The 777 Building, which is occupied by the Hiiko store in the google streetview photo, was Pepperland but, according to the former employee, the Bermuda Palms shows were actually in the Litchfield's sign building that I photographed. Hence this begged the question of where the Euphoria shows were. My guess is that they were in the Pepperland building as you surmise, but it would be nice to have eyewitness verification. I plan to return to San Rafael shortly to take some more photos and hopefully straighten this out some more.
great mrmories !
i was at the youngbloods gig and well remember the fab sound syatem...
I was at the Youngbloods/ Joy of Cooking show on June 2, 1972. I remember the date because it was the day before my brother's 20th birthday and we attended the show together. I hadn't seen either band before so I didn't have much frame of reference. The sound was pretty decent if I recall and the music generally was inspired.
Jesse Colin Young's strong vocals carried the show, Banana was more than a striking image on stage. I remember the ladies in Joy of Cooking also made an impression on me, I guess. It's been so long, it's hard to recall their set but I do remember The Youngbloods song list which also included a number of instrumentals featuring Banana.
I believe it was a quartet at the time with JCYoung, Banana, Joe Bauer and Michael Kane.
Holy Smokes, this makes my brain freeze. I was at 'a' Hot Tuna show when I was younger, and my problem is that my entire life I've been telling people that I was at a Hot Tuna Pepperland Show 'New Year's Eve, 1975/76. The fact that this list shows now shows at all (let alone a Hot Tuna show) after 1972 makes me 11 years old when they played April 11th. Problem number two is that I do not recall Quicksilver playing and that Hot Tuna was the headliner, jamming til forever. Interesting part one: this show being one of my first in Marin County where I lived, was that my first concert was Quicksilver Messenger Service at Winterland, which I had always assumed I'd gone to previous to this...by a wide margin. Interesting part two: I went with my older brother and several of our friends, and my brother (being kind of a jerk a lot of the time) left me outside a 'sold out' show far from my home telling me that 'it would be easy to get a ticket from somebody coming to the concert'. I was kind of scared and bummed that I was left out there, but within about ten minutes, a couple came by offering tickets. Bought one, went inside, had a great time. But I'd ALWAYS thought that it was ok I'd been left outside as I would have been 15/16 at the time of my memory. Now I realize my brother and several of our friends left an 11 year old outside a rock concert to fend for himself. Oh well: it was the 70's!
Well, I'm grossly overdue for comments on some of these. It's been a pretty crazy summer. Bonedaddy Hanz - thanks for the recollections about the Youngbloods show. They seem to have played there reasonably often, and I would certainly caution that the gig list was the best I could pull together but is certainly not guaranteed to be complete.
As for Anonymous' memories of the Tuna show, again they could conceivably have played there at some later date. The Litchfield family has held onto the property to the present day, and it is not clear at what time it was reconfigured to its current commercial configuration. If you were indeed 11 years old, being outside a 1972 Tuna show at that age would have been quite an adventure! Thanks for your recollections.
My best friend and I hitched to Pink Floyd show from sonoma County (we were 16 years old).We sat on the floor maybe 15 ft from the stage.I still have the handbill....No on e believes me when I tell them i saw Pink Floyd in San rafael (when they were a cult band)...We were waiting in a short line in front to get in and the band came up looking to find the proper way to get in....BTW there is a bootleg of the gig (complete with the power outage ) available on the net called "Pepperland In The West"....I also saw the Taj mahal /Boz Scaggs gig (Tubas)...Man,epic stuff! Thanks for the great write-up! Pepperland was a great venue....
About Hot Tuna, I know (from a poster) that they play at the Bermuda Palms on February 19, 1972 with Osceola and Stoneground also on the bill.
I envy the experience you and your friend had seeing Pink Floyd at Pepperland. Given the amount of equipment they displayed on the back of Umagumma, I can only imagine all that stuff stacked up on the floor of Pepperland.
Bruno:
Thanks for the addition of the '72 Tuna show. It's likely that these venues were used for a number of one-off gigs like the Tuna show you mentioned after Pepperland ceased to function - I just listed all the ones I could find. Because of the conversion of both former venues to retail space, this sadly wouldn't be possible today.
I saw the tube show with Taj, too, and clearly remember the white horns. I don't remember anything about the rest of the show but thanks for filling in the lineup!
haha at the guy who used to work there...Yeah, my dad was one of the owners, and definitely wasn't in the music business
moeses
Hot Tuna played Pepperland on 9/18+19/70. Captain Beefheart and Charles lloyd were also on the bill. I'm looking at the poster.
Thanks for the Addition JGBP. There does not seem to be a comprehensive set of Pepperland posters around, so any additions are helpful.
JBGP you're right!
In John "Drumbo" French's autobiography, you know, the Magic Band's drummer, he remember some funny stories about that gigs with Hot Tuna.
Also, speaking of Captain Beefheart and Leon Russell gig on November 28, 1970, they actually played there also on November 27. See the poster and the review of the gigs here:
http://www.freewebs.com/teejo/gigs6870/701127pepper.html
cheers,
Bruno
Bruno:
Thanks for these insights. The Tuna/Beefheart/Lloyd shows must have been quite a triple bill!
I was the roadie for the Sons of Champlin. I certainly remember working the shows there.
I was there to collect for a gig, and the owners, who were losing a lot of money, were having the kind of an argument that you want to get out of the building before the gun comes out.
Thanks for posting Repack Rider. Sounds like another day in the glamorous life of a roadie!
For the record, the Beefheart Tuna show on Friday was the day Hendrix had died. As a tribute, Steve Miller also played.
I played at Pepperland on the bill with Hot Tuna in a band from Bolinas called "One." I don't recall anyone else being on the bill. I DO remember it was the first time I ever snorted Coke (with the bass player) -- in a VW bus parked outside the front doors of the venue!
All I can say about that experience is that he and I ran away with the show, leaving the other musicians in the band in the dust with their jaws on the floor! ;-)
Jake:
Thanks for your comment. Since the One album (which I remember fondly) came out on Grunt in 1972, the gig may have been after Pepperland was abandoned by the original promoters in Mid-1971. Sounds like a memorable evening for you:)
I went to a great show at PepperLand/Bemuda Palms sometime in early 1972...It might have been the February 19, 1972 Hot Tuna, Osceola and Stoneground show......
But it was Osceola opening->Stoneground( get long set)-> Copperhead( Cippolina ..2 long sets )-> 90minute break then ->Hot Tuna started at close to 2:30+am...think they had another gig that night as well..shoe got over at 4:30+am....does anyone remember this gig?
My girlfriend and I drove up from Palo Alto to see Pink Floyd. My recollection was that PF was set up against the back wall, opposite the entrance on a very low riser. The big Glyph horns were set up in the corners and there were Shure vocal columns set up every 20 feet or so along the walls in between. The wooden floors and exposed metal rafters reminded me of a roller rink I used to go to as a kid. There were slide projectors up in the metal rafters projecting fisheye photos of farm animals into the painted "portholes" on the walls ala' the "Atom Heart Mother" cover.
Keyboardist Wright had a joystick that he used to swirl his synth and other sounds around the room or have them rip through the room, front to back to great effect.
A few steps up at the back of the performance space was another space with a trippy sculpture in the center, a female hand holding up a glowing sphere or something all surrounded by "angel hair" and all under a plex dome. There were probably only a few hundred people there, certainly no more than 500, sitting on the floor in the center with a good 10 feet of space around the perimeter. And yes there were some folks sitting up inside the big Glyph bottom horns. There were no power problem during the show and yes, it was a masterful Floyd performance.
Great memories - thanks! I will always regret not making it to one of those Pink Floyd shows. Sounds like you went on 10/16, which was the night with no power failure. I really admired the sense of style that the promoters brought to Pepperland, even though it was apparently not their main gig,
I'm WRomanus, member of Magna Qualitas Records. We soon will release the Pink Floyd Pepperland show with an unreleased sound quality. It's the one with no less of 5 power failures. This is the first show, the one held the 16th so duckpond49 attended at the 2nd day.
We know for sure 'cos I personally met one of the tapers, Ron C., in May 2010. They re-used the master tape cassette the 17th in Berkeley to tape the Jethro Tull show.
Thr Pink Floyd show was saved onto a Scotch 7" reel.
I went to the Young Bloods, Sea Train, & John Fahey show. It was January 22. The little poster that I have doesn't give the year. Ticket price was $3.50. The next show (Jan. 29th) was Cold Blood, Boz Scaggs, & Stone Ground
I saw Young Bloods, Sea Train22, & John Fahey on January 22. The little poster have doesn't give the year. The ticket price was $3.50. The following act was Cold Blood, b
Bos Skaggs, & Stone Ground The ticket price was 3.50 Did any one ever go Santa Rosa Memorial? Big quansanhut, No ventilation. Greatshows and the bigest contact high you ever had
That was 1971, just a few weeks after the David and the Dorks show. A tape of the Youngbloods set from one of those nights was broadcast on KPFA a few weeks after the show.
I remember seeing a double bill Chuck Berry, Sly and the Family Stone and the Meyer sound thang was totally ROCKIN
What a great double bill! Did Sly back up Chuck Berry? Chuck usually uses bands he is billed with - just travels with his guitar and a suitcase.
I have the poster for the Grateful Dead show at the Euphoria and also one for the Big Brother show. Got them from the 7-11 in Sausalito.
About a year after the concerts listed above, I went to a show there Bermuda Palm. The line up was Cipollina's Copperhead, Gravenites' Blue Gravy, and The Ducks. Wavy Gravy was the MC. Must have been late '72 or early '73.
im looking for some one who was at pepper land for the elvin bishop band ,cold blood,and clover concert i have a poster,and would love to get it to clover or other bands involved with this great show respond to bill.cundall @ g mail . com rock on
be good to each other NT 85
Cryptdev, I can confirm that the "mystery jazz guitarist" is indeed Terry Haggerty of The Sons.
Thanks Steve!
Just found this site. Thanks for clearing-up some dates/years. Glad I can stop hunting . I'm working with poster artist Thomas Morris - who did the Joy Of Cooking, Linda Ronstandt and others. I was wondering if you know of any other handbills/posters by Thomas Morris. He worked
for Bill Quarry.
Kent Wood bluemoonman22@msn.com
thanks
I remember seeing Lee Michaels with Joy of Cooking and the fourth way. Great show. Was a big fan of Lee Michaels. I remember everyone sitting or laying on the floor. Anyone else see that show?
I was at the Chuck Berry concert, but it was Larry Coryell's band that opened, and that's when I first heard tenor saxophonist Jim Pepper and his song "Witchi Tai To".
Does anyone else remember this show?
Sean - it would have been great to see Larry Coryell during that era. He had recently played in a band with Mitch Mitchell and Jack Bruce. Pepperland may have ben a curious operation, but the managers certainly created some great and unique bills at their shows.
Here's my Larry Coryell - Jim Pepper story, and I'm sticking to it....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Soll5Su18
There WAS a show New Year's Eve 1972...
Hot Tuna
Commander Cody
Stoneground
I'm sure of the bass but "fuzzy" on the details. I think it was a semi-private affair put on by Grunt Records & tickets were available only in a few record stores.. it was also announced on a couple of FM stations I seem to recall.. it was also WAY oversold & crowded! GREAT SHOW!!
I was at the show with "David and the ding-a-Kings. That IS Terry Haggerty, playing with/as Yogi Phlem. I am sure because I got to smoke a joint with Jerry in the hallway next to the stage, and Jerry was complementing Terry's talent. That large hollow body electric guitar was a standard for Terry at that time. Grace Slick was back stage trying to talk Jerry into doing a Starship tour (Blows Against the Empire) and he was not having it.
Thanks Climber - I completely agree it is Haggerty. Did you happen to stay to the end of the show? I am still trying to ascertain whether the Dead played after the Crosby-Garcia set.
As the Sons of Champlin's historian I didn't know about this gig, but the mistery guys in the photo look like Bill Bowen and Terry Haggerty to me. So if I understand the Sons played at Pepperland on December 21, 1970? If so, Climber100 are you sure they were billed as Yogi Phlegm? because I know they started to use that name only since late June 1971
I remember going to the 11/13,14/70 - Incredible String Band, Doug Kershaw, Joy Of Cooking show, had a date and my car broke down so had to borrow my Dad's 1964 Chrysler wagon. On the way home pegged the speedometer at 120 on the Richmond Bridge.That's still the fastest I ever went. It was a great show, not the biggest names but still a fun night.
Pepperland had some great, eclectic lineups, and I envy you for seeing that ISB show. I'm pretty surprised that your dad's wagon would get up to 120!
Bruno - sorry for the tardy reply. It was definitely not a Sons/Yogi Phlegm gig - just Terry and possibly Bill playing with Howard.
Jerry Hahn, yes? Article reverts to Kahn after that mystery photo.
Hahn moved back to three Midwest at some point, playing with a drum machine inn Lawrence or so. The article quoted him "not a finer drummer in town."
I was a 15-year-old kid at that Pink Floyd concert. When they played Atom Heart Mother I was astounded.
Does anyone remember Norman Greenbaum getting booed during a solo acoustic version of Spirit in the Sky, and getting pissed and walk off stage before Cold Blood and Tower of Power. It was awesome.
I couldn't find any reference to Peter Frampton. We saw him at Pepperland when he was recording his live album Frampton Comes Alive. Awesome concert with several songs on the album recorded in San Rafael
Late reply to Moeses (from "the guy that used to work there".) Yep, not the music business, but what might be considered an ancillary industry.... sort of...
This has been a pretty epic comment thread!
Wow, I’m only getting to read this entire thread today because I’m playing the Motners 70 box set cd#2 on my stereo system as I write these words and the end of that CD is taken from “San Rafael,CA” so I decided to investigate. I’ve been living in Marin County for over 20 years but did not know about Pepperland. What a treasure it is to read from all of you 😢 I was born in 73 so clearly can only imagine what these times were all about but I’d pay big $ to go back in time and share the fun and stories with all of you, that’s for sure! Funny bit, I’ve been to the “athletic “ store many times for my work and the owner is an acquaintance. Little did I know my all time hero FZ once played there with the Motners! Thanks to all for contributing.
Wow, I’m only getting to read this entire thread today because I’m playing the Motners 70 box set cd#2 on my stereo system as I write these words and the end of that CD is taken from “San Rafael,CA” so I decided to investigate. I’ve been living in Marin County for over 20 years but did not know about Pepperland. What a treasure it is to read from all of you 😢 I was born in 73 so clearly can only imagine what these times were all about but I’d pay big $ to go back in time and share the fun and stories with all of you, that’s for sure! Funny bit, I’ve been to the “athletic “ store many times for my work and the owner is an acquaintance. Little did I know my all time hero FZ once played there with the Motners! Thanks to all for contributing.
Very cool to stumble on this. Didn't know about this venue. Now every time I drive down 101 I can say Pink Floyd played there! Thanks for sharing!
For the sake of historical accuracy, I must admit that I missed a date with the Dead...by accident of course. 12/21/70 was a Monday following a three day weekend of shows. The 12/20 show with Joan Baez was the last show of the year as far as I knew. I never saw any advertising for The Grateful Dead on Monday night and nobody told me. The lightshow at Pepperland was unique and fantastic. I'm very sorry that I wasn't there to operate it that night. Your pictures would have looked wonderful...amazing things might have happened...Thanks Michael for your great coverage of the event. Bob Pullum
I went to both Pink Floyd’s Pepperland shows on Oct.16&17,1970 and I still remember to this day how awesome the whole experience was! It’s hard to believe that it didn’t last longer then it did !! The whole submarine affect was really well done !!! And those speakers were fantastic it was like an “Alice in Wonderland “ experience come to life !!!! Thank you for your support! Ezra B. Eddy IV
Sniffing around the Bermuda Palms and all that in the Marin I-J in the late 60s - early 70s, it certainly featured regularly in the crime blotter. Lots of burglaries, lots of criminals holing up at the Palms, etc.
I would swear that is where I saw Janis Joplin some sometime before she died. I always remember it being there. At the time I lived in Marin, although I grew up in Santa Rosa so spent much of my youth in Marin and the City in Haight Ashbury , early days
Patty
Hello Micheal,
I'm a Marin County historian working on a Pepperland project and I would like to get permission to use one of your (Garcia/Crosby 12/21/70) pics in the project. Please, contact thelencreative at gmail.com Thank you for your time, best -TC
Sly and the Family Stone played at Pepperland December 31, 1970. I was there.
I saw Sly there that same night! It was Unfingbelievable!
Hello, I was there during the transition from Euphoria into Pepperland. Me with friends, who knew someone involved with Pepperland, were there to help paint the interior. Our compensation was free concerts.
My recollection is we' were painting the portholes (from the inside of the submarine) with paint that glowed (maybe it was just me?) when the lights were down.
Anyway, I'm glad you mentioned that the bills weren't always accurate at who actually played because I remember Captain Beefart, Hot Tuna, Jefferson Airplane and I'm pretty sure Van Morrison showed up one night.
Such a special time for me. I was just barely 18 and had traveled from the East Coast landing in Lucas Valley the summer of 1970.
Thank you for providing a connection to fond memories.
Hey Jake, met you at Jeff Doty’s memorial and enjoyed talking to you. I was at Pepperland one nite when people were shooting guns. I was so young and stupid at the time I thought it was funny. Those were the days. 💜
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